Editing User talk:Tim

Elevation Gain/Elevation Loss 
Convention question from what I see you doing.  Positive for gain, negative for loss?  Does the order make a difference?  What happens if Loss is first, then Gain?
--[[User:Vhasler|Vhasler]] ([[User talk:Vhasler|talk]]) 18:46, 29 September 2015 (MDT)
::[[Image:Elevation gain loss example.png|300px|left|Elevation gain/loss from Google Earth]]Straight from Google Earth elevation profile for the KML. The amount of climbing up  or climbing down one-way on a trail. A perfectly flat descending hike would have 0' gain, but could have 2,000' loss in 0.5 miles, making it a hard hike back that I think would have been lost with just reporting gain before. Ultimately more data to help understand hike difficulty (short of looking at an elevation profile). --[[User:Tim|Tim]] ([[User talk:Tim|talk]]) 19:01, 29 September 2015 (MDT)
::Also, if you're updating trail pages, please update the IB data section. I've been just copying the new layout from the [[Template:Infobox Trail|template page]], copying over data as needed from the old to the new, deleting the obsoleted parts, then deleting the old template call. I learned how to have instructional text on template pages instead of seeing an error filled template. It includes descriptions of what each of the variables are for, possibly answering your initial question. --[[User:Tim|Tim]] ([[User talk:Tim|talk]]) 18:51, 30 September 2015 (EDT)

== Upload KML? ==

How do I upload KML to reference in the pages?  I've got a bunch I plan to add.  Thanks!

--[[User:Tndude|Tndude]] ([[User talk:Tndude|talk]]) 09:28, 28 October 2015 (EDT)
:We upload them, then use the map plugin to reference them. I had a problem figuring out how to upload them within the wiki yet still have the maps plugin be able to see them. That was several versions ago of Mediawiki and a different mapping plugin so it might not be a problem anymore. I'll do some checking. In the meantime you can either  [mailto:tim@tehcc.org email them to me] and I can get them online, or contact me and I can get you FTP access to our KML folder. If it is a bunch, it's probably best to do the latter as I do find Mediawiki uploading to be a bit tedious for pictures. 

:I have it on my [[TEHCC_Wiki:Community_portal|list to do]] but here's some quick tips on KML's and mapping. Or just upload them as is and someone can tweak these details later. We have been putting waypoints in the wiki markup (easier for editing) and leaving the KML for just the route. Actually it's a "path" in Google Earth, the one without time/speed data (I believe those are routes or tracks). Paths can be tweaked when viewing properties allowing you to remove/add/delete the points making the path. The name of the path is the trail name. This allows clicking the path on the site and seeing its name. It's useful when we're showing multiple KML's. Pick a color of your liking, and I've been using 3.0 width and 100% opacity but I'm open to differing opinions on this. The KML file name is then the trail name as well, but at least the old mapping extension didn't like spaces, so they were all replaced with '_' (underscore, not meek faces). All of the trail stats of length, max elevation, and elevation gain/loss all come straight from the elevation profile view. Thanks! --[[User:Tim|Tim]] ([[User talk:Tim|talk]]) 22:31, 28 October 2015 (EDT)
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-Hi, I am not sure how to properly use this site. Me and a buddy are using the site and trying to document our hikes.
+Elevation Gain/Elevation Loss
+Convention question from what I see you doing.  Positive for gain, negative for loss?  Does the order make a difference?  What happens if Loss is first, then Gain?
+--[[User:Vhasler|Vhasler]] ([[User talk:Vhasler|talk]]) 18:46, 29 September 2015 (MDT)
+::[[Image:Elevation gain loss example.png|300px|left|Elevation gain/loss from Google Earth]]Straight from Google Earth elevation profile for the KML. The amount of climbing up  or climbing down one-way on a trail. A perfectly flat descending hike would have 0' gain, but could have 2,000' loss in 0.5 miles, making it a hard hike back that I think would have been lost with just reporting gain before. Ultimately more data to help understand hike difficulty (short of looking at an elevation profile). --[[User:Tim|Tim]] ([[User talk:Tim|talk]]) 19:01, 29 September 2015 (MDT)
+::Also, if you're updating trail pages, please update the IB data section. I've been just copying the new layout from the [[Template:Infobox Trail|template page]], copying over data as needed from the old to the new, deleting the obsoleted parts, then deleting the old template call. I learned how to have instructional text on template pages instead of seeing an error filled template. It includes descriptions of what each of the variables are for, possibly answering your initial question. --[[User:Tim|Tim]] ([[User talk:Tim|talk]]) 18:51, 30 September 2015 (EDT)
-{{#ask: [[Category:Lists]][[Listed By::User:Tim]]
+== Upload KML? ==
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+How do I upload KML to reference in the pages?  I've got a bunch I plan to add.  Thanks!
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-{{#ask: [[Category:Trip Reports]][[Trail::Sinking Waters]][[Trip Date::>{{#time: F j, Y|-90 days}}]]|format=count}} recent logs
+--[[User:Tndude|Tndude]] ([[User talk:Tndude|talk]]) 09:28, 28 October 2015 (EDT)
+:We upload them, then use the map plugin to reference them. I had a problem figuring out how to upload them within the wiki yet still have the maps plugin be able to see them. That was several versions ago of Mediawiki and a different mapping plugin so it might not be a problem anymore. I'll do some checking. In the meantime you can either  [mailto:tim@tehcc.org email them to me] and I can get them online, or contact me and I can get you FTP access to our KML folder. If it is a bunch, it's probably best to do the latter as I do find Mediawiki uploading to be a bit tedious for pictures.
-{{#queryformlink:form=Trip Report Search|link text=Trip Report Search|query string=Trip_Report_Table[trail]=Sinking Waters&Trip_Report_Table[SortOrder]=desc&_run}}
+:I have it on my [[TEHCC_Wiki:Community_portal|list to do]] but here's some quick tips on KML's and mapping. Or just upload them as is and someone can tweak these details later. We have been putting waypoints in the wiki markup (easier for editing) and leaving the KML for just the route. Actually it's a "path" in Google Earth, the one without time/speed data (I believe those are routes or tracks). Paths can be tweaked when viewing properties allowing you to remove/add/delete the points making the path. The name of the path is the trail name. This allows clicking the path on the site and seeing its name. It's useful when we're showing multiple KML's. Pick a color of your liking, and I've been using 3.0 width and 100% opacity but I'm open to differing opinions on this. The KML file name is then the trail name as well, but at least the old mapping extension didn't like spaces, so they were all replaced with '_' (underscore, not meek faces). All of the trail stats of length, max elevation, and elevation gain/loss all come straight from the elevation profile view. Thanks! --[[User:Tim|Tim]] ([[User talk:Tim|talk]]) 22:31, 28 October 2015 (EDT)
-{{#ask: [[Category:Trails]][[Trailhead location::36.51659, -82.47366 (1 mi)]]|format=count}} trails of {{#number_format:{{#ask: [[Category:Trails]][[Trailhead location::36.51659, -82.47366 (1 mi)]]||?Trail Distance#mi|format=sum}}|1}} miles nearby
-Test pull of exif location. Sinking Waters Sunk photo taken at coordinates {{#geocode:{{#mediaexif:Image:Sinking_waters_sunk.jpg|GPSLatitude}}, {{#mediaexif:Image:Sinking_waters_sunk.jpg|GPSLongitude}}}}
-{{#ask:[[Sinking Waters]]
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-Testing stripping parenthetical disambiguation (e.g. Ridge Top (Roan Mountain State Park)) from the display text, but not the link. Alright solution, had to use odd double close nowiki to get the space recognized so the #explode would use the " (" as the split and omit the trailing space.
-{{#arraymap:{{#ask:[[Park::Roan Mountain State Park]][[Category:Trail||Trails]]
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-and now for something completely different
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- [[Category:Trip Reports]]
- [[Reported By::User:Tim]]
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-[[:Category:Trail Stubs|Trail Stubs]];{{#ask:[[Category:Trail Stubs]]|format=count|limit=5000}};{{#ask:[[Category:Trail Stubs]]| ?Trail Distance#mi|mainlabel=-|format=sum|limit=5000}}
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-[[:Category:Parks|Parks]];{{#ask:[[Category:Parks]]|format=count|limit=5000}};
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