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Hi, I am not sure how to properly use this site. Me and a buddy are using the site and trying to document our hikes.
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{{#ask: [[Category:Lists]][[Listed By::User:Tim]]
Pin balloons for the infobox Google map are too big to see names.  Any way to make smaller/more compact?--[[User:Vhasler|Vhasler]] 21:09, 9 March 2011 (EST)
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:The infobox should just be the trail head. If you want a detailed map, add another embedded Google map under the "map" section of the main article. Then it can be as big as needed. --[[User:Tim|Tim]] 06:44, 18 March 2011 (EDT)
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::Two imbedded maps are then not needed. The infobox map would be redundant, thus messy for the page layout. Recommend if the kml routes are added, then only one map should remain.--[[User:Vhasler|Vhasler]] 05:56, 19 March 2011 (EDT)
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List names in use by Tim:  
How to upload kml files to show routes on Google Maps?  Your "Sinking Creek" shows a folder I don't know how to reach?  Have GPX file for Warriors' Backbone and Fall Creek Loop trails I was going to covert in Google Earth to kml.--[[User:Vhasler|Vhasler]] 16:26, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
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:Send KML's to me for the time being and I'll get them there. --[[User:Tim|Tim]] 06:44, 18 March 2011 (EDT)
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::Sent five from home computer, so we'll see how those display.  And adding placeholder code on the routes that I have captured.  Can resubmit without waypoint flags, if necessary.--[[User:Vhasler|Vhasler]] 05:51, 21 March 2011 (EDT)


{{#ask: [[Category:Trip Reports]][[Trail::Sinking Waters]][[Trip Date::>{{#time: F j, Y|-90 days}}]]|format=count}} recent logs
How to make park map on "Grayson Highlands State Park" page smaller?  Can it be put to the right of the Google Map?--[[User:Vhasler|Vhasler]] 22:08, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
:See [[Grayson Highlands State Park]], simply add a "|200px" or whatever size reduction to the file tag --[[User:Tim|Tim]] 06:44, 18 March 2011 (EDT)
::Thanks for the information.  My coding experience is really limited.--[[User:Vhasler|Vhasler]] 05:56, 19 March 2011 (EDT)


{{#queryformlink:form=Trip Report Search|link text=Trip Report Search|query string=Trip_Report_Table[trail]=Sinking Waters&Trip_Report_Table[SortOrder]=desc&_run}}
I see that you copied the AT trail g-map from the main website.  Need to understand how you plan to merge it with the main list or keep separate?  Some of the destinations on the current list are really along the AT.--[[User:Vhasler|Vhasler]] 06:35, 16 March 2011 (EDT)
:Not sure what I have planned, I do want to get the AT stuff over here as well for the same reasons as the other trails (easy editing, consistent,...). I'm thinking eventually The AT link on the main page would dump people over to here. I will eventually convert the AT trail map to use the embedded pins instead of a KML for easy modification. --[[User:Tim|Tim]] 06:44, 18 March 2011 (EDT)


{{#ask: [[Category:Trails]][[Trailhead location::36.51659, -82.47366 (1 mi)]]|format=count}} trails of {{#number_format:{{#ask: [[Category:Trails]][[Trailhead location::36.51659, -82.47366 (1 mi)]]||?Trail Distance#mi|format=sum}}|1}} miles nearby
Standard for coordinates in infobox.  Been using decimal formal DD.DDDDD,-DD.DDDDD, but more use to working in DD MM.MMM,-DD MM.MMM style.  Yes, it would involve another conversion, but likely able to read right off the GPSr.  So what is the standard?  Add it to the creating trail info.--[[User:Vhasler|Vhasler]] 07:52, 16 March 2011 (EDT)
:You have to be careful about not messing up the info boxes. See [[WPSP Devil's Backbone]]. The link to bring them over to Google maps so they can do a destination routing is now broken. My personal preference is the decimal format, but mostly because I know that's what Google maps understand. Not sure if it can tolerate DMS. Then if we display DMS but the pins in GMaps needs decimal, then we would be setting ourselves up for confusion. --[[User:Tim|Tim]] 06:44, 18 March 2011 (EDT)
::Fixed [[WPSP Devil's Backbone]] by removing spaces in the coords, so now it works with the "Larger Map".  DM.M does not work in the quotes for the gmap.  Guess we are at the customer preference issue.  What do folks want to see on the trail pages?  I lean more towards DM.M as default for my Garmin GPSr and geocaching.--[[User:Vhasler|Vhasler]] 05:56, 19 March 2011 (EDT)


Test pull of exif location. Sinking Waters Sunk photo taken at coordinates {{#geocode:{{#mediaexif:Image:Sinking_waters_sunk.jpg|GPSLatitude}}, {{#mediaexif:Image:Sinking_waters_sunk.jpg|GPSLongitude}}}}
How to delete a no longer used page?  "Sinking Waters" is now "WPSP Sinking Waters" and "Devil's Backbone" is "WPSP Devil's Backbone" to maintain the consistency of having park prefix on their trails.  Needed as "Overlook" and "Lakeside" are common to several parks.  Have fixed all broken links, so the redirect pages are no longer required.--[[User:Vhasler|Vhasler]] 07:33, 17 March 2011 (EDT)
:I'll take care of that, need sysop prvileges. --[[User:Tim|Tim]] 06:44, 18 March 2011 (EDT)


{{#ask:[[Sinking Waters]]
In the trail template under misc. information you have "Does this trail require any permits for overnight? parking?" which appears to be redundant with the "Fees, Permits, etc." section two above (which needs a space between the leading "==" and "Fees" in the template).--[[User:Vhasler|Vhasler]] 05:56, 19 March 2011 (EDT)
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Testing stripping parenthetical disambiguation (e.g. Ridge Top (Roan Mountain State Park)) from the display text, but not the link. Alright solution, had to use odd double close nowiki to get the space recognized so the #explode would use the " (" as the split and omit the trailing space.


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Can now delete [[File:Roaring Branch Trail - geocaches.JPG]] as this temporary geocaching page is from a copyrighted map - and we now have KML file for the actual trail.--[[User:Vhasler|Vhasler]] 05:51, 21 March 2011 (EDT)
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and now for something completely different
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[[Category:Trip Reports]]
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[[:Category:Trail Stubs|Trail Stubs]];{{#ask:[[Category:Trail Stubs]]|format=count|limit=5000}};{{#ask:[[Category:Trail Stubs]]| ?Trail Distance#mi|mainlabel=-|format=sum|limit=5000}}
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